Showing posts with label Tao. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tao. Show all posts

Sunday, 12 June 2022

Voice Recording - "Zen ..."

 Misuse of language

  • Law
  • Belief
  • Signaling that I am a member of the group
  • Do Biologists "believe" in evolution like Fundamentalists don't?
Ordinary "belief" depends on a structure of related inferences - "evidence" as opposed to motivated reasoning - totally linguistic. Scientific "evidence" refers to real experience. Religious "evidence" is based on philosophical reasoning (at best).

"Survival of the fittest" is a circular concept. "Variation" is the mechanism of evolution. Hard to refute that variation exists...

What does it mean to "believe" in God? At its base, it's a system of appeasing spirits through traditional ceremonies. If you don't believe in prayer, what kind of "God" remains? If you don't think God is active in history, are you misusing the "God" concept? Do you mean God=physics?

The ground of all Being - Tillich. Video here. Is "ground of all being" analogous to the "Tao"?

Hard to find a clearer example of wordy religion than the three-volume "Systematic Theology" - by Tillich. There is a strong hint that Tillich suspects the futility of language.

Problems with Zen ...

What is the point? Many presentations imply that "Zen" is being a nice person.

Is this the Theology of Wonder? But I hate anything that smacks of "theology". 

I seek certain experiences and avoid others. Mindfulness and Zen provide a way to find the "sweet spot" - a base for everything else. Selflessness but total awareness of "self". The way the moment is so much richer than our fantasies and shades of the past.

Is it time to avoid terminology, as I did with Christianity? By using such terminology, I drag myself into association with individuals who understand the terminology in a radically different way, especially since a core principle of Zen (from Taoism) is that terminology is ultimately futile.




Friday, 16 March 2018

The Real Tao

Warning: This post contains more speculative bullshit than (most) of the others. The reader is encouraged not to take it too seriously. It's a meditation on an idea I've long regarded as fundamentally important: the Tao and how the idea lines up with what we think "science" is telling us.

The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao

"Tao" is an elusive concept in the Tao Te Ching. Our physical laws borrow their appearance of solid reality from the reality they describe. The famous saying above (which lead me to become a part-time Taoist) points out the profound difference between a description and the thing itself *.  I had earlier learned the same hard lesson in Physics 101, when the instructor firmly insisted that all science does is describe, not "explain".

A "description" is a system of statements "about" the "real world" out there. One particular kind of description I discuss here is a "program" that describes an organism, the organism's environment and a strategy for the organism to survive and thrive in that environment.

What kind of a "thing" is a program? As Medieval philosophers would have asked: what is its substance? Well, a program is made up of information. War and Peace is the same "thing" whether written on paper, carved in stone, transmitted as an e-book or memorized by a professor of Russian Literature. It can even survive translation to the silver screen as a bad movie. The medium is not essential to what it is. If only I could have explained this to the philosophers in 1200 I would have been famous. Or burned at the stake ...

It is worth noting that "information" is in the eye of the beholder. While a carbon atom is a carbon atom anywhere in the Universe, a bound copy of "War and Peace" is not information if it floats inaccessibly between galaxies. "Information" seems to be bound directly or indirectly to living things, although Stephen Hawking might strenuously disagree, but he was talking a different kind of information - the opposite of entropy. For the geeks, I'm talking about information the way Shannon described it. Explicit inclusion of the observer (mind) in the idea of information follows an interesting pattern we see in relativity and quantum physics. We can't take ourselves out of our theories about reality.

The wonderful thing about the simplest form of life I consider here - proto-life - is that its design "stores" the "program" of proto-life in the medium of reality itself. Lao Tsu would perhaps say it emerges directly from the Tao. He might also agree that all life emerges in the same way. But I wonder what he would say if he knew about the language of DNA. DNA fits my idea of a program - a "description" that is obviously not "written" in the same medium as that which it describes.

We see that there is something about life that insists on making a wider and wider gap between the medium of description and the what the organism is made of in the world itself.

It is fashionable these days for any book on perception or the mind to point out that the description of the world we hold "in our heads" is operational - more or less what we require to survive and limited to what evolution has handed us. This may describe the world-view of a dog, but not a human. The human "mind" is shared with 7 billion others on the planet and many millions now dead.  It includes quite a few things that are hardly good for our survival (such as how to make an H-bomb as big as we like), nor relevant to our survival, such as the excruciating detail we know about the Big Bang.

But, for all its glory, human knowledge is still a description, not the thing itself.

Zen claims that there are two "brute facts" that must simply be accepted, not "explained". They are consciousness and the world. It is exciting to imagine that there is only one brute fact. For some reason, mystics have leaned toward this being "mind" but the more "scientific"  bet is "the world". Or maybe there is "world" and we (or minds) are "information about the world". It so happens that information must be recorded in some kind of "real" medium, whether it's booked, stone tablets, electrical signals or patterns of neurons firing in a brain - in other words, no extra "world" is needed.

None of this is central to the topic of this blog, except that it's only fair to note that this is the way I imagine the world to be - it's always in the back of my mind. Perhaps you need to see the world this way for any of this to make sense.

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* I am aware of the other way "Tao" is used to refer to the "way", both the way we should live and the "way" of nature-nature itself. Words can mean more than one thing. Tao is a word that means all kinds of things at the same time. But this "way" idea strays perilously close to being a description of nature which is to be avoided. Indeed, "followers" of the "way" (and Zen) are told to do so without talking about it. These guys love paradox. One might say that the paradox is created by ancient Chinese farmers tackling the mysteries of language without proper training in computer programming. There should be no confusion between a thing and a reference to a thing. I digress ...

Proto-Life

In this blog, I introduce two categories of "life" that may be regarded as controversial or "merely" a matter of definition. "Supermind" is at the "high" end. At the low, primitive, "old" end is "proto-life" - life before (or simply without) DNA ("before" being evolutionary speculation I avoid).

Here is a good presentation on work on "proto-life". I'll try to add more examples as I come across them.

Current work in this field can be regarded as an "existence proof": if there is any way we can make "life" out of non-living molecules, there may be others, one of which presumably actually happened. For my purposes, it's sufficient to see how such systems are possible, at least in theory. I leave the discovery of actual evolutionary processes to others. I avoid using "evolutionary fairy dust" to support the ideas put forward here. This blog does not put forward or support any particular theory about the sequence of events or mechanism of actual evolution here on Earth.

Among serious researchers in the field, "proto-life" is expected to exist in an environment (which can be seen as part of the proto-life system) which is:
  • Not in equilibrium - the possibility of change is key;
  • Liquid - hard for us to imagine life without some possibility of movement, but I'm not sure about this one ...
  • Allowing making and breaking of chemical bonds - "metabolism"
For my purposes, it's sufficient to notice that the programming of this system - the rules that make it do what it does - are physical and chemical. There is no "abstraction" of the rules into some other medium like DNA. It's all chemistry and physics. On the other hand, the laws of physics and chemistry depend on something even deeper, which emerges again at the "top" of the pyramid in the supermind.

This is the subtle point, worth careful consideration. The "laws" of physics and chemistry are known to the supermind. They are a special case of "knowledge" that restricts (or should restrict) the "ideas" that make up the supermind. This means that each level of "mind" contains all the others below it. Another way of seeing it is that the supermind can't act in the world in ways that violate the laws of physics and chemistry.

As soon as we move "up" the pyramid of complexity to the DNA level, there is a separation between the "stuff" of the organism and the "stuff" of the "program" or guiding "software". DNA is a 4-letter code that just happens to be implemented in a huge molecule, but it is the code that matters. At the DNA level and levels above it, the "program" is abstract - "pure" information. It is also, interestingly, a "proto-language" that "talks" mainly about proteins. "Up" the pyramid a different kind of language will emerge that "talks" about a much wider range of things.

"Godel Escher Bach" is the book that made Hofstader famous.  Along the way to illustrating his central point (Godel's Theorem), the book this exposes the absurdity of computer intelligence simply by imagining that we switch the medium or "substrate" of the program from electronics to an ordinary book. He imagined, for example, someone using a huge rule book to translate Engish to Chinese by rote, then asking if this person (or the rulebooks)  "understood" Chinese. Somehow, when you think of the program running on a computer, there is a temptation to answer "yes" to this question. To Hofstadter, we owe the insight that the "substrate" of the "program" matters but not in the way we thought.

In the case of "proto-life", we can, indeed, separate the "meaning" of the "program" from the substrate. This is akin to Dennett's idea of a design without a designer. The "designer" is hidden in the "laws of physics" or, as the ancients would have put it, the "Tao". But, as they would have put it, there is danger in confusing talk about the Tao (even the "math") with the Tao itself. Broadly speaking, "proto-life" seems to emerge directly from the "Tao" with no programming needed.